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	<title>Comments on: Eduwonk Takes it on the Chin : How Should We Write About Education?</title>
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	<description>In Education for the Aughts, Matthew K. Tabor discusses issues in K-12 and higher education. He examines: college, law school &#38; medical school admissions; NCLB &#38; testing; teaching; teacher certification; parent &#38; community relations; school law; school boards; &#38; national education trends. Matthew is an admissions consultant and private educator. He writes out of Cooperstown, New York.</description>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewktabor.com/2007/06/11/eduwonk-takes-it-on-the-chin-how-should-we-write-about-education/comment-page-1/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing as pleasurable as the right word used in the right way.

I don&#039;t follow Eduwonk that closely, so I don&#039;t know exactly if I would agree or not.  But it really depends on the designated audience.

But the little blurb is perfect for a sidebar.  At least that is the type of thing I like to put in mine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing as pleasurable as the right word used in the right way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t follow Eduwonk that closely, so I don&#8217;t know exactly if I would agree or not.  But it really depends on the designated audience.</p>
<p>But the little blurb is perfect for a sidebar.  At least that is the type of thing I like to put in mine!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewktabor.com/2007/06/11/eduwonk-takes-it-on-the-chin-how-should-we-write-about-education/comment-page-1/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Thanks for the comment. I&#039;ll try to address the issues you&#039;ve raised. If I miss something or don&#039;t address it adequately, feel free to remind me.

By referring to Eduwonk as &quot;bewildering,&quot; Ginger says that she doesn&#039;t understand it - that is, unless she&#039;s taken it upon herself to speak for all who read Eduwonk. When an individual makes a comment, it is reasonable to think that their personal experience drives their stance unless they point out that they are speaking generally or for a group. Ginger&#039;s repeated use of &quot;I&quot; led me to believe that she was speaking about herself only.

You&#039;re right - the education field has plenty of jargon. Don&#039;t forget that &quot;jargon&quot; has two meanings: 1) language unique to a field; 2) meaningless tripe. There&#039;s nothing wrong with #1 and many times it can&#039;t [or shouldn&#039;t] be avoided, but #2 is a problem. Eduwonk&#039;s blog often makes witty use of this jargon which might elevate the bewilderment factor in some cases. I would assume that many education professionals find it refreshing.

As I wrote in the comment above this one, the decision regarding how broadly we communicate depends on the purposes of the communication. I know why I write the way I do, but I can&#039;t speak for Eduwonk. If I had to guess, Eduwonk&#039;s readership has more researchers and policy wonks than mine. They&#039;re familiar with the lexicon and understand when those words are being played with. Regarding Eduwonk&#039;s supposed lack of appeal to the common person who, in your view, ought to be more interested in public education, I would say that particular branding doesn&#039;t seem to be aligned with Eduwonk&#039;s mission. A quick look at EdSector&#039;s site will give you a better idea about their branding. 

Some sites are high-performance race cars, others are stationwagons [and, of course, there&#039;s everything in-between] - they appeal to and serve different markets. Since there are many markets that need to be served, I don&#039;t fault anyone for their particular branding, as long as they are comfortable with the consequences.

My words about Ginger aren&#039;t an attack in the slightest - she admitted herself, as I wrote in this comment, that she was bewildered [confused, befuddled, puzzled, etc.] by Eduwonk and I found her interpretation noteworthy. That is, unless she decided to speak for the internet community as a whole. I didn&#039;t take her for that type. It has nothing to do with my being clever or [im?]mature - I used what she said to make a point. I prefer to engage in real commentary rather than pointing out obvious typos to well-established writers; I find little value in the nits.

And you&#039;re right about me not being a Mark Twain. My fiction is horrible, I do enjoy Cooper, and I look absolutely wretched with a mustache. I am far more attractive with a full beard or clean-shaven.

Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I&#8217;ll try to address the issues you&#8217;ve raised. If I miss something or don&#8217;t address it adequately, feel free to remind me.</p>
<p>By referring to Eduwonk as &#8220;bewildering,&#8221; Ginger says that she doesn&#8217;t understand it &#8211; that is, unless she&#8217;s taken it upon herself to speak for all who read Eduwonk. When an individual makes a comment, it is reasonable to think that their personal experience drives their stance unless they point out that they are speaking generally or for a group. Ginger&#8217;s repeated use of &#8220;I&#8221; led me to believe that she was speaking about herself only.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; the education field has plenty of jargon. Don&#8217;t forget that &#8220;jargon&#8221; has two meanings: 1) language unique to a field; 2) meaningless tripe. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with #1 and many times it can&#8217;t [or shouldn't] be avoided, but #2 is a problem. Eduwonk&#8217;s blog often makes witty use of this jargon which might elevate the bewilderment factor in some cases. I would assume that many education professionals find it refreshing.</p>
<p>As I wrote in the comment above this one, the decision regarding how broadly we communicate depends on the purposes of the communication. I know why I write the way I do, but I can&#8217;t speak for Eduwonk. If I had to guess, Eduwonk&#8217;s readership has more researchers and policy wonks than mine. They&#8217;re familiar with the lexicon and understand when those words are being played with. Regarding Eduwonk&#8217;s supposed lack of appeal to the common person who, in your view, ought to be more interested in public education, I would say that particular branding doesn&#8217;t seem to be aligned with Eduwonk&#8217;s mission. A quick look at EdSector&#8217;s site will give you a better idea about their branding. </p>
<p>Some sites are high-performance race cars, others are stationwagons [and, of course, there's everything in-between] &#8211; they appeal to and serve different markets. Since there are many markets that need to be served, I don&#8217;t fault anyone for their particular branding, as long as they are comfortable with the consequences.</p>
<p>My words about Ginger aren&#8217;t an attack in the slightest &#8211; she admitted herself, as I wrote in this comment, that she was bewildered [confused, befuddled, puzzled, etc.] by Eduwonk and I found her interpretation noteworthy. That is, unless she decided to speak for the internet community as a whole. I didn&#8217;t take her for that type. It has nothing to do with my being clever or [im?]mature &#8211; I used what she said to make a point. I prefer to engage in real commentary rather than pointing out obvious typos to well-established writers; I find little value in the nits.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right about me not being a Mark Twain. My fiction is horrible, I do enjoy Cooper, and I look absolutely wretched with a mustache. I am far more attractive with a full beard or clean-shaven.</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewktabor.com/2007/06/11/eduwonk-takes-it-on-the-chin-how-should-we-write-about-education/comment-page-1/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel,

You&#039;re most welcome regarding the DWT referral. And, the thanks go to you and the others at DWT - it&#039;s a great resource that I recommend frequently. Most people want to write better, but they don&#039;t want to sit in front of a pile of books and figure it out. DWT gives them 300-word bursts about important elements of writing, one small piece at a time. It is an invaluable resource and I look forward to DWT&#039;s growth.

I was hesitant to address communication style in this post because it is such a large, complex issue - I knew I couldn&#039;t do justice to it in 500 words. But I suppose that also gives an opportunity for fleshing out in the comments.

The next level of this argument - something we both failed to point out - is the marketing side. We can use DWT and my site as examples. DWT&#039;s readership is broad; there are writers of all levels, I assume. They are also motivated to learn about writing - otherwise they would have little interest in DWT. Because you are dealing with a readership that forms a broad spectrum of knowledge and abilities, you can&#039;t guarantee the richness of their vocabulary [however, you could use a few uncommon words with this demographic, because they are far more likely to be interested in looking them up/learning them than on another site].

My site&#039;s readership is, generally, older [sorry, guys and gals - &#039;tis the truth]. They also tend to have 4-year degrees [or higher] or are in the middle of getting them. And since this is essentially a site that covers a niche market, I can get away with some jargon common to the education world because, well, that&#039;s where most of the readers come from.

I recognize that committing to this style keeps me from gaining everyday readers at the same pace as most sites - just like using more complex language on DWT would defeat the purpose of the site. I think the main issue is whether we as writers are choosing a style that fits reasonably with our goals and generates consequences that we are comfortable accepting.

I agree that our &quot;fast-paced, information-based society&quot; [very well put] tends to be burdened by complex language. I suppose the way we write depends on our answer to the question, &quot;So what?&quot;

Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re most welcome regarding the DWT referral. And, the thanks go to you and the others at DWT &#8211; it&#8217;s a great resource that I recommend frequently. Most people want to write better, but they don&#8217;t want to sit in front of a pile of books and figure it out. DWT gives them 300-word bursts about important elements of writing, one small piece at a time. It is an invaluable resource and I look forward to DWT&#8217;s growth.</p>
<p>I was hesitant to address communication style in this post because it is such a large, complex issue &#8211; I knew I couldn&#8217;t do justice to it in 500 words. But I suppose that also gives an opportunity for fleshing out in the comments.</p>
<p>The next level of this argument &#8211; something we both failed to point out &#8211; is the marketing side. We can use DWT and my site as examples. DWT&#8217;s readership is broad; there are writers of all levels, I assume. They are also motivated to learn about writing &#8211; otherwise they would have little interest in DWT. Because you are dealing with a readership that forms a broad spectrum of knowledge and abilities, you can&#8217;t guarantee the richness of their vocabulary [however, you could use a few uncommon words with this demographic, because they are far more likely to be interested in looking them up/learning them than on another site].</p>
<p>My site&#8217;s readership is, generally, older [sorry, guys and gals - 'tis the truth]. They also tend to have 4-year degrees [or higher] or are in the middle of getting them. And since this is essentially a site that covers a niche market, I can get away with some jargon common to the education world because, well, that&#8217;s where most of the readers come from.</p>
<p>I recognize that committing to this style keeps me from gaining everyday readers at the same pace as most sites &#8211; just like using more complex language on DWT would defeat the purpose of the site. I think the main issue is whether we as writers are choosing a style that fits reasonably with our goals and generates consequences that we are comfortable accepting.</p>
<p>I agree that our &#8220;fast-paced, information-based society&#8221; [very well put] tends to be burdened by complex language. I suppose the way we write depends on our answer to the question, &#8220;So what?&#8221;</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewktabor.com/2007/06/11/eduwonk-takes-it-on-the-chin-how-should-we-write-about-education/comment-page-1/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowhere does the blogger (Ginger) say she doesn&#039;t understand Eduwonk.  You&#039;re mischaracterizing her critique.  Rather, she criticizes the &quot;intentionally bewildering lexicon&quot; of the site.  In other words, it has too much jargon.

Why shouldn&#039;t the blog attempt to communicate more widely, especially considering the importance of education and education policy to the average person?  There&#039;s a difference between elevated, literary language that a writer such as Mark Twain would employ and jargon.  I&#039;ll defend the former in most cases; the latter is rarely worth defending.

Also, you just sound petty when you attack the blogger by saying she doesn&#039;t understand Eduwonk.  That&#039;s neither very clever nor very mature on your part, but, then again, you&#039;re probably no Mark Twain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowhere does the blogger (Ginger) say she doesn&#8217;t understand Eduwonk.  You&#8217;re mischaracterizing her critique.  Rather, she criticizes the &#8220;intentionally bewildering lexicon&#8221; of the site.  In other words, it has too much jargon.</p>
<p>Why shouldn&#8217;t the blog attempt to communicate more widely, especially considering the importance of education and education policy to the average person?  There&#8217;s a difference between elevated, literary language that a writer such as Mark Twain would employ and jargon.  I&#8217;ll defend the former in most cases; the latter is rarely worth defending.</p>
<p>Also, you just sound petty when you attack the blogger by saying she doesn&#8217;t understand Eduwonk.  That&#8217;s neither very clever nor very mature on your part, but, then again, you&#8217;re probably no Mark Twain.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt, first of all thanks for reading and recommending DWT!

While I agree with your argument, I think it does not conflict with the post you mentioned. Mainly because, as you explained, it depends on the context.

â€œIf youâ€™re writing an instruction manual for assembling an entertainment center, then Iâ€™d lean toward simple, accessible language. If not, you might choose to say exactly what you mean to say without being burdened by the consequences of a readerâ€™s ignorance.â€

True. But don&#039;t you agree that in our fast-paced, information based society people are more likely to be burdened by the consequences of a reader&#039;s ignorance, as you say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt, first of all thanks for reading and recommending DWT!</p>
<p>While I agree with your argument, I think it does not conflict with the post you mentioned. Mainly because, as you explained, it depends on the context.</p>
<p>â€œIf youâ€™re writing an instruction manual for assembling an entertainment center, then Iâ€™d lean toward simple, accessible language. If not, you might choose to say exactly what you mean to say without being burdened by the consequences of a readerâ€™s ignorance.â€</p>
<p>True. But don&#8217;t you agree that in our fast-paced, information based society people are more likely to be burdened by the consequences of a reader&#8217;s ignorance, as you say?</p>
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