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	<title>Comments on: Baseball and Education are Kissing Cousins, Volume 372</title>
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	<description>In Education for the Aughts, Matthew K. Tabor discusses issues in K-12 and higher education. He examines: college, law school &#38; medical school admissions; NCLB &#38; testing; teaching; teacher certification; parent &#38; community relations; school law; school boards; &#38; national education trends. Matthew is an admissions consultant and private educator. He writes out of Cooperstown, New York.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew K. Tabor</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/03/11/baseball-and-education-are-kissing-cousins-volume-372/comment-page-1/#comment-2017</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew K. Tabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen,

I&#039;d love to play against a team that frequently pitched out on 2-1. You&#039;re right - as the opposing team I&#039;d be surprised!

Pleasantly surprised, especially if my guy on first stole at a 75% success rate and I had a hitter in a 3-1 count with a man in scoring position.

I&#039;m going to apologize in advance, but I have a feeling I&#039;m going to pull out the following line fairly often between now and the end of time:

&quot;But thereâ€™s data and thereâ€™s data - the mass of data, however carefully collected, is generally an unreliable indicator of outcome.&quot;

&quot;Wee Willie&quot; Keeler, chosen for this example simply because his name is great, had 8500 at bats in his career. He got 2900+ hits. Using those rounded numbers - and then rounding the result - I can say that he got a hit about 34% of the time he tallied an at bat.

Those are big numbers. I&#039;d even call 8500 &quot;a lot&quot; of at bats. And I&#039;d also say that the data was a generally reliable indicator that Wee Willie would hit safely once out of three at bats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to play against a team that frequently pitched out on 2-1. You&#8217;re right &#8211; as the opposing team I&#8217;d be surprised!</p>
<p>Pleasantly surprised, especially if my guy on first stole at a 75% success rate and I had a hitter in a 3-1 count with a man in scoring position.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to apologize in advance, but I have a feeling I&#8217;m going to pull out the following line fairly often between now and the end of time:</p>
<p>&#8220;But thereâ€™s data and thereâ€™s data &#8211; the mass of data, however carefully collected, is generally an unreliable indicator of outcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Wee Willie&#8221; Keeler, chosen for this example simply because his name is great, had 8500 at bats in his career. He got 2900+ hits. Using those rounded numbers &#8211; and then rounding the result &#8211; I can say that he got a hit about 34% of the time he tallied an at bat.</p>
<p>Those are big numbers. I&#8217;d even call 8500 &#8220;a lot&#8221; of at bats. And I&#8217;d also say that the data was a generally reliable indicator that Wee Willie would hit safely once out of three at bats.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew K. Tabor</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/03/11/baseball-and-education-are-kissing-cousins-volume-372/comment-page-1/#comment-2000</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew K. Tabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Ha! Rigorous, relevant, hands-on, project-based learning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Ha! Rigorous, relevant, hands-on, project-based learning!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Jablow</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/03/11/baseball-and-education-are-kissing-cousins-volume-372/comment-page-1/#comment-1998</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Jablow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dusty does have one educational virtue, though.  He encourages children to have educational experiences on the baseball field.  For example, his then 3-year-old son was a bat boy during the 2002 World Series, and nearly got run over when he retrieved Kenny Lofton&#039;s bat during a play at the plate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dusty does have one educational virtue, though.  He encourages children to have educational experiences on the baseball field.  For example, his then 3-year-old son was a bat boy during the 2002 World Series, and nearly got run over when he retrieved Kenny Lofton&#8217;s bat during a play at the plate.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Downes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting if fluffy comparison.

Anyhow...

If you manage in baseball &#039;by the book&#039;, using evidence and statistics to inform your decisions, then you re giving the opposition a way to anticipate your moves, and plan accordingly. That&#039;s why, with a 2-1 count with a guy on first, you so often see a pitch-out.

In education, of course, you don&#039;t have an opposing team trying to anticipate your moves and respond accordingly - but it&#039;s a human endeavour, and in human endeavours in general, being unpredictable is generally an asset.

That&#039;s not to assert that either managers or educators should ignore the data.

But there&#039;s data and there&#039;s data - the mass of data, however carefully collected, is generally an unreliable indicator of outcome. The numbers, even if reliable (and in the field of education they often aren&#039;t) take us only part of the way.

That&#039;s why we play the games, rather than just run the numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting if fluffy comparison.</p>
<p>Anyhow&#8230;</p>
<p>If you manage in baseball &#8216;by the book&#8217;, using evidence and statistics to inform your decisions, then you re giving the opposition a way to anticipate your moves, and plan accordingly. That&#8217;s why, with a 2-1 count with a guy on first, you so often see a pitch-out.</p>
<p>In education, of course, you don&#8217;t have an opposing team trying to anticipate your moves and respond accordingly &#8211; but it&#8217;s a human endeavour, and in human endeavours in general, being unpredictable is generally an asset.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to assert that either managers or educators should ignore the data.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s data and there&#8217;s data &#8211; the mass of data, however carefully collected, is generally an unreliable indicator of outcome. The numbers, even if reliable (and in the field of education they often aren&#8217;t) take us only part of the way.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why we play the games, rather than just run the numbers.</p>
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