Comments on: The Obama/McCain Education Poll and the Heroic Sherman Dorn http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/08/22/the-obamamccain-education-poll-and-the-heroic-sherman-dorn/ In Education for the Aughts, Matthew K. Tabor discusses issues in K-12 and higher education. He examines: college, law school & medical school admissions; NCLB & testing; teaching; teacher certification; parent & community relations; school law; school boards; & national education trends. Matthew is an admissions consultant and private educator. He writes out of Cooperstown, New York. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:30:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Matthew K. Tabor http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/08/22/the-obamamccain-education-poll-and-the-heroic-sherman-dorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2933 Matthew K. Tabor Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:07:48 +0000 http://www.matthewktabor.com/?p=392#comment-2933 Sherman, Not a problem - it's remarkable that you were one of the very, very few to do more than repeat the summary. We don't have to analyze such polls to the nth degree [we shouldn't bother, I should say], but this one deserved a little attention. Sherman,

Not a problem – it’s remarkable that you were one of the very, very few to do more than repeat the summary. We don’t have to analyze such polls to the nth degree [we shouldn't bother, I should say], but this one deserved a little attention.

]]> By: Sherman Dorn http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/08/22/the-obamamccain-education-poll-and-the-heroic-sherman-dorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2915 Sherman Dorn Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:09:20 +0000 http://www.matthewktabor.com/?p=392#comment-2915 Thanks for the kind word (and the cartoon!). It's my fault that I gave a very quick gloss in the entry: the sample statistics worry me, but there's a broader context given some surprising year-to-year jumps in data. I've explained a bit more today at http://www.shermandorn.com/mt/archives/001380.html Thanks for the kind word (and the cartoon!). It’s my fault that I gave a very quick gloss in the entry: the sample statistics worry me, but there’s a broader context given some surprising year-to-year jumps in data. I’ve explained a bit more today at http://www.shermandorn.com/mt/archives/001380.html

]]> By: Matthew K. Tabor http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/08/22/the-obamamccain-education-poll-and-the-heroic-sherman-dorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2903 Matthew K. Tabor Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:20:46 +0000 http://www.matthewktabor.com/?p=392#comment-2903 Stephen, Agreed. I sensed that a few bloggers didn't bother because the summary told them exactly what they wanted to hear, but they were in the minority. The bulk just didn't bother to read it through. My M.O. with small polls/studies like that is to read the summary, the skip right to the methodology or sample data, then go back and read it all [unless the methodology is so obviously poor, then I skim]. Really, a rotten job here. Stephen,

Agreed. I sensed that a few bloggers didn’t bother because the summary told them exactly what they wanted to hear, but they were in the minority. The bulk just didn’t bother to read it through.

My M.O. with small polls/studies like that is to read the summary, the skip right to the methodology or sample data, then go back and read it all [unless the methodology is so obviously poor, then I skim].

Really, a rotten job here.

]]> By: Stephen Downes http://www.matthewktabor.com/2008/08/22/the-obamamccain-education-poll-and-the-heroic-sherman-dorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2902 Stephen Downes Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:03:23 +0000 http://www.matthewktabor.com/?p=392#comment-2902 Yep, it's pretty bad research. I saw it yesterday, didn't run it for precisely that reason - Tom Hoffman http://www.tuttlesvc.org/2008/08/some-good-news.html gave me the heads up before I even had a chance to open the PDF. Sad that so many did run it uncritically. I really hate it when something so sloppy is passed off as evidence. Yep, it’s pretty bad research. I saw it yesterday, didn’t run it for precisely that reason – Tom Hoffman http://www.tuttlesvc.org/2008/08/some-good-news.html gave me the heads up before I even had a chance to open the PDF.

Sad that so many did run it uncritically. I really hate it when something so sloppy is passed off as evidence.

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